Queering Autism
I’ll of course assume he’s completely ignoring the presence of autistic trans women

nicocoer:

draggle:

eateroftrees:

Because if autistic women are inconvenient for his theories about extreme male brains, autistic women who have absurd levels of distress over coercive masculinization are like… Yeah.

Brains: You can’t just arbitrarily stick genders on them.

(This is the guy who’s tests show that most women have male brains and who doesn’t think this is a problem SO I MEAN REALLY.)

Hell yes.  My best friend is an autistic transwoman and so very “stereotypically feminine”.  SBC’s tripe always reminds me of her, how very opposite his tripe she is.

Say, when is the Autism Women’s Network interviewing Simon Baron-Cohen on radio again?  Someone should ask him about transwomen.  I’m sure people must have asked him ‘bout ‘em before, but whatever drivel he replies with ought to be recorded.   

Anyone want to volunteer to be the call in question asker? (Prefer if it’s a trans autistic btw…)  

I DO know that he is/was supposed to be coming on the Autism Women’s Network Radio Show again SOON, if he hasn’t backed out. Unfortunately, it seems like he still hasn’t been scheduled in? I’ll have to talk to my executive director….

Response to the post about the CAFAB->Men and Autism article

alexthefab:

nowisgreater:

[snipped earlier discussion]

The fact that there was a trans woman involved makes NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE when the results were such transphobic shit as “trans men are silly deluded girls who think that because they’re not pretty princesses they must be boys”. From her “warning”, it sounds like she fully believes that trans guys who are autistic or leaning towards autistic are not really trans, but just confused (much like many older trans people, both men and women, insist that younger trans people are just doing it to be trendy).

Fuck that - I was and always will be a pretty princess. And all my friends are girls.

I think this is the article.

This shit is transphobic AND ableist/anti-autism at the same time. What even…? Are trans guys now required to pass as neurotypical in order to access hormones?

I hate to say this, but I’ve heard stories of therapists specializing in providing sign off for people looking to undergo transition telling a person they had to stop doing certain things to get sign off- all of which were Autism related traits. (If you have an experience with this, please do submit. If you’d like to do so Anonymously, send us an Ask.)

Response to the post about the CAFAB->Men and Autism article

nowisgreater:

politeyeti:

nicocoer:

BILL 55 minutes ago

I agree with your thoughts on a flawed study. Baron-Cohen’s own orginzation, The Autism Research Centre (ARC) states “it is recognized that at best the AQ is a screening instrument - it is not itself diagnostic.”

The article from Cambridge First omitted the important last paragraph from the original press release full News Release here 

Emma Martin, a co-author, is a transwoman and psychotherapist. She gives the only real caution in the article: “This new research reminds us that gender incongruence is incredibly complex. Every possibility should be discussed with new clients, but should not delay what can be a painfully slow process for those affected.”

Bill then provided a link which didn’t work to another press release, and I couldn’t retrace it either. 

I would like to see this, as well as hear what people know of Emma Martin and her professional history.

I also personally find it a bit problematic that they had a trans woman on staff (apparently as a representative for trans people in general), when the study was about trans men. While I very strongly believe all trans people have similar struggles and we’re fighting the same fight in the end, the lived experience of being a trans woman is different than being a trans man is different than being either CAFAB or CAMAB genderqueer/agender/something else entirely.

The fact that there was a trans woman involved makes NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE when the results were such transphobic shit as “trans men are silly deluded girls who think that because they’re not pretty princesses they must be boys”. From her “warning”, it sounds like she fully believes that trans guys who are autistic or leaning towards autistic are not really trans, but just confused (much like many older trans people, both men and women, insist that younger trans people are just doing it to be trendy).

Two abstracts from IMFAR (the International Meeting for Autism Research) caught my eye as they discussed an area I haven’t seen discussed much (if at all): gender identity and autism.

The 2008 paper was from the Autism Research Centre (ARC), R.M. Jones first author, and Simon Baron-Cohen’s group:

Female-to-male transsexuals and autistic traits.

The second paper had first author I. L. J. Noens ( Katholieke Universiteit Leuven) with collaborators from the Netherlands.

Co-Occurrence of Autism Spectrum Disorders in Individuals with Gender Dysphoria